Loving Differently Podcast
Episode Guide
We started this podcast to offer another way for people to learn about IRT and SASB, in a more informal manner. Here is an episode by episode guide, where you can read more about each episode in depth and search by keyword.
Please note: Transcripts and summaries are AI generated.
Episode 004 - Introduction to SASB, part 2 - Touring the SASB model
Building on the previous episode, Ken and Eliza dive deeper into how SASB is applied in therapy. They explore the “copy process,” complementarity, and the use of alternative responses to help shift rigid, repetitive patterns toward flexibility and health. Through examples and reflection, they show how SASB helps reveal the logic of clients’ loyalties and self-treatment, bringing IRT’s core theme—learning to love differently—into concrete, behavioral focus.